What changes, if any, would you make to the way enrollment is managed in your area (the way classes are scheduled, added, and/or cut)?
#	Response Date	Comment
1.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:02 PM	I would like to see a system whereby the classes didn't have to be cancelled immediately if there is "low" enrollment. I think that the classes should at least be allowed to meet 2-3 times to give "late adders" the chance to show up.
2.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:03 PM	I think there should be more flexibility. Add another section when all sections fill. Do not cut sections until the second week.
3.	! Wed, 10/10/07 7:05 PM	More dialog with faculty and management
4.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:08 PM	If there are enough extra students to add another section on the first day of classes, another section should be added. Waiting until the third class meeting is TOO late! Students will leave and not come back.
5.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:12 PM	I am not sure how this is handled in my department so I cannot comment on it.
6.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:13 PM	It simply must be a departmental decision. We are professionals with advanced degrees, many of us on campus with terminal degrees. We know the problems management faces, and perhaps they can be there as advisory, and give us more information about the problems they face before WE make the de! cisions. But this is ridiculous--like parents doling out allowances t o their children. I, for one, feel incredibly insulted by their holding of these purse strings, no matter how nice or flexible they are! They Still have the purse strings, and none of them have expertise in my field, let alone the 20+ years I have teaching...along with my colleagues.
7.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:14 PM	For years, 15 students was the cutoff, then it became 20 -- but not for all classes. This makes it difficult to start a new course - a new class should get a reduced minimum number for the first 1 or 2 times it is offered.
8.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:19 PM	Chemistry classes at DVC are oversubscribed. If we were allowed to open another section, it would fill instantly. We should be able to offer more sections of classes that actually sell.
9.	Wed, 10/10/! 07 7:30 PM	More honesty to the students about why/when classes are likely to be cut. Students are very frustrated when they have no idea if/why a class will be run.
10.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:30 PM	let all participate in scheduleing follow the by-laws support a well managed comprehensive curricula formulated by people who actually teach those classes
11.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:33 PM	There should be a FTS 'bank' so that we can experiment with new classes that do not have to get to 21 students. Scheduling of classes at DVC should be controlled by DVC faculty, not San Ramon!
12.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:40 PM	I think we need a faculty position to work with the Administration and other faculty to brainstorm new kinds of classes, offering times, days etc. We know best what can work to bring more students to campus. Let us be more creative. The District is proposing growth through increasing retention, but we need to lay a foundation of more options for students (new kinds of classes in each discipline..new learning communities...new time frames etc.). If the break even point for a class is 10 students, then let us experiment and offer some classes that may at first draw only 20 students. It takes time to build programs.
13.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:46 PM	None
14.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:54 PM	This is difficult to answer -- numbers aren't the only measure of the justifiability of a course. We need to maintain the integrity of our program, which sometimes means low enrolled courses should still be offered.
15.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:57 PM	Hard to judge due to limited (but increasing knowledge) of the system from the state level, through to district and college. However my sense is that due to economies of scale, getting increased enrollment solely by increasing productivity is not enough. We should be looking to increase absolute numbers of students as well, and this means being able to have the option for at least limited growth. (while still looking to increase productivity. I also think that it is sometimes necessary to start a new program with less than stellar numbers, but is allowed to grow and become viable and strong.
16.	Wed, 10/10/07 7:59 PM	Electronic scheduling rather than paper so everyone can take part.
17.	Wed, 10/10/07 8:00 PM	in my department we are working hard to create new courses for a proposed degree. this involves advanced classes that may, initially, be lower than 20 as the degree gets established, i think situations like this need to be granted 4 or so semesters of underenrollment. also, PE classes are often the last classes students enroll in, and i think the grace period should be extended a week longer to allow students, once they have secured their mandatory coures, to find a great activity course to keep them healthy and happy and fit!
18.	Wed, 10/10/07 8:07 PM	I don't think the UF should be spending time on this. It is a Senate issue. Nor do I think our salaries should be tied to enrollment.
19.	Wed, 10/10/07 8:16 PM	Establish an enrollemnt # for all classes that we agree is the break event expense.
20.	Wed, 10/10/07 8:21 PM	More online courses and these should have priority for growth money as well
21.	Wed, 10/10/07 8:53 PM	Departments should make these decisions and divisions should have the opportunity to share sections - i.e. - divisions that have seen decreased enrollment should be able to "loan" sections to those divisions that have increased enrollment and are in need of additional sections.
22.	Wed, 10/10/07 8:57 PM	There should be class averaging in student population to balance high numbers against low. If lots of students waiting to add, new sections need to be added without horse trading.
23.	Wed, 10/10/07 9:15 PM	give departments more weight
24.	Wed, 10/10/07 9:31 PM	Lower the minimum enrollment for courses that require a great deal of one-on-one interaction with students.
25.	Wed, 10/10/07 9:38 PM	More respect, credence and responsibilty should be given to the departments.
26.	Wed, 10/10/07 9:40 PM	Departments should have the major say on this.
27.	Wed, 10/10/07 9:46 PM	I think it's smart to not run a class with less than 20 people. I've had many classes of my ow! n canceled for this reason, but I think it's a good policy.
28.	Wed, 10/10/07 10:15 PM	New, never been offered courses ought to not be held to the same enrollment minimum requirements.
29.	Wed, 10/10/07 10:17 PM	This is difficult...there are financial pressures to cut smaller classes, but here at CCC we're so close to losing critical mass in many programs that rigorously cutting smaller sections will leave us below what is needed to offer a genuine college curriculum.
30.	Wed, 10/10/07 10:31 PM	I'd like to see a method for the district to reallocate money from canceled classes at a shrinking campus to a growing campus. I believe that right now the district sits on canceled class money from shrinking campusses. I think we should ha! ve a goal of putting in high class max growth classes to bring in the money to improve the college's economy so that we can afford pay raises. Faculty should work with managers to creatively and dynamically toward grow.
31.	Wed, 10/10/07 10:34 PM	Deecision should be made at the departmental level AND MINIMALLY consensus based with management.
32.	Wed, 10/10/07 11:01 PM	Can Richard Livingston deny me scheduling a course I have taught every semester during a time period when he wants to hold a monthly department chair meeting??? Also--this refusal to schedule anything that "crosses patterns" in my department, when he allows it in the Math dept all over the place, is very frustrating!
33.	Wed, 10/10/07 11:04 PM	works well enough
34.	Wed, 10/10/07 11:19 PM	My personal class (CHE 108) would work better with one three hour lab instead of two one and a half hour labs.
35.	Wed, 10/10/07 11:47 PM	The Brentwood Center is GROWING ... we know what works for students out here. Los Medanos College managers believe they know better, but they don't.
36.	Thu, 10/11/07 12:11 AM	none
37.	Thu, 10/11/07 12:13 AM	I would love to see the college websites updated so students could actually register online.
38.	Thu, 10/11/07 12:28 AM	see my first page comment
39.	Thu, 10/11/07 1:50 AM	I like how we do it.
40.	Thu, 10/11/07 4:59 AM	Each class should be evaluated on its own basis. Some classes are smaller than others and are the only ones available to the students. They should be allowed to continue.
41.	Thu, 10/11/07 7:05 AM	Departments should be able to control enrollment management - reporting to division.
42.	Thu, 10/11/07 3:50 PM	more coordination with other departmen! ts - admissions and records, EOPS, financial aid etc.
43.	Thu, 10/11/07 4:09 PM	Mangagement should stop adding off-site classes (e.g. at high schools) with a history of low enrollment and low success.
44.	Thu, 10/11/07 4:34 PM	Uniform district policy
45.	Thu, 10/11/07 5:33 PM	We do not have a problem at Contra Costa College. No change is needed. If DVC has a problem handle it on the College basis not a district managed procedure.
46.	Thu, 10/11/07 5:54 PM	I need more in depth understanding about this.
47.	Thu, 10/11/07 6:03 PM	To a large extent, what we can offer is dictated not by the number of students willing to take the courses (th! ey are abundant), but by the costs associated to run the labs. If our operating budgets were larger, then we could offer more sections of many of our courses.
48.	Thu, 10/11/07 6:26 PM	We need to discuss this fully. I am not sure how to handle it.
49.	Thu, 10/11/07 6:59 PM	Classes scheduled should take into consideration the time of day a class is offered. Class Room physical size should have a prioity when setting enrollment numbers. Hiking, Walking, Swimming, classes can manage many more than the small portables and SRV 181 room,
50.	Thu, 10/11/07 9:22 PM	Take management the hell out of the loop!
51.	Fri, 10/12/07 2:50 AM	don't know enough to com! ment on.
52.	Fri, 10/12/07 4:55 AM	Unfamiliar with this process except the requirement for minimum twenty students.
53.	Fri, 10/12/07 6:28 PM	For courses that regularly have sections that do not fill, reduce the number of sections for that course. Allocate more sections to courses that regularly fill and canoot accomdate all students trying to enroll.
54.	Fri, 10/12/07 6:59 PM	If a discipline has shown growth over a 5 year period, that discipline should have priority as to adding courses and should have scheduling priority. Disciplines which fill their sections should have growth priority especially if the MAX enrollment is already high. Disciplines with low MAX enrollments which continually under enroll should be willing to give up units and prime classroom space to growth areas.
55.	Fri, 10/12/07 7:24 PM	it should be round robined
56.	Fri, 10/12/07 7:56 PM	do not cancel vocational classes when less than 20 students. Lab (hands-on) is difficult with 30 or 35 students, but can be done in non-traditional ways, and students still learn. A lab class with 15 students can be extremely productive. Evening classes & weekend classes need to be run or cancelled by the instructor & department evaluation, not by # of students.
57.	Fri, 10/12/07 8:11 PM	Department control.
58.	Mon, 10/15/07 3:28 AM	I don't have any say about this; things seem fine
59.	Mon, 10/15/07 7:46 AM	students should be tracked if a class is cancelled. It is unclea r whether those students find another class that semester. experience tell us that they do not, so we are losing student everytime a class is cancelled. also teachers should not be overenrolling their classes. this should be policy because it contributes to shortfalls in other classes, especially in the same department.
60.	Mon, 10/15/07 1:39 PM	When scheduling is unresponsive to enrollment needs during the first few weeks of a semester, we lose students. That's no way to build enrollment. There needs to be flexibility and rapid response. Cancelling borderline classes is another good way to drive the students away.
61.	Mon, 10/15/07 11:10 PM	We are too tied to numbers. Although strong enrollment is important, this focus on large numbers prevents faculty members from experimenting with new courses and/or innovativ! e time slots. We also see too many classes canceled that students need to complete a certificate program due to low enrollments. This should not happen, and it doesn't happen in other community colleges.
62.	Mon, 10/15/07 11:13 PM	n/a to our department
63.	Mon, 10/15/07 11:22 PM	This should be done on a yearly, not semester basis. Also, full time faculty should NEVER be allowed to go overload on classes if a part timer who has taught the same class is teaching under the part time load limit; the part timer should ALWAYS be offered the class first. This seems to be quite a large problem in some departments and there have been several rather disturbing incidents of this nature this semester. Also, I have seen non-qualified full time instructors be given classes just to fill up their schedule --- that is not onl! y unfair to the qualified part timers who then are without a class, bu t a true disservice to the students who should be able to expect their instructor to have the necessary qualifications/work experience.
64.	Mon, 10/15/07 11:45 PM	should be based on needs of the community-and expanded regularly or at least checked regularly. we have had the same classes and we are not meeting needs of our students. we need more Reading classes for eSL , for example and more writing classes.
65.	Mon, 10/15/07 11:58 PM	There needs to be consideration for classes that are necessary for majors even if they will not be filled.
66.	Tue, 10/16/07 12:51 AM	Departments should be able to run classes with low enrollment if other classes are enrolled with higher numbers than required.
67.	Tue, 10/16/07 12:54 AM	No composition classes should be cut until classes start to allow for referrals from over enrolled courses. A long way down the road, I suppose, is that composition classes should be capped at 25 students. This is still almost twice the number of students allowed by UCB.
68.	Tue, 10/16/07 1:58 AM	Keep the Dean almost out of it...should be up to the departmetn chair and the Dean to make the choice.
69.	Tue, 10/16/07 1:58 AM	c contract is parsed out in an unfair and opaque manner.
70.	Tue, 10/16/07 3:32 AM	decrease enrollment minimums to 15 in all art classes, especially highly teachnical classes such as Jewelry and Metalsmithing, or theater set design. Hire more fu! ll time faculty to manage departments with lots of sub areas with no c urrent full time faculty. provide compensation for department chairs. Hire department admin. assistants.
71.	Tue, 10/16/07 4:18 AM	So far enrollment is managed pretty well, I think the dean listens to our concerns and tries to work with us to keep the classes that are most important to the most students.
72.	Tue, 10/16/07 5:04 AM	There needs to be communication with the department members rather than one person from the department making the decision as part of a conversation with the dean.
73.	Tue, 10/16/07 7:35 AM	add more classes
74.	Tue, 10/16/07 8:43 AM	I have a new course which fulfills a requirement which has not had enough enrollment YET...i! t is a one unit course. There were 18 people enrolled summer for shortterm class and it was cancelled...seems like we should have let it be a go...the dean was totally strict about the 20 in first class rule.
75.	Tue, 10/16/07 4:56 PM	consultation with Dept chair and management
76.	Tue, 10/16/07 5:33 PM	n/a
77.	Tue, 10/16/07 6:54 PM	Examine class size, profitability and safe education are all in conflict.
78.	Tue, 10/16/07 7:07 PM	Some managers repeatedly ask us to schedule classes when our facilities are already overbooked. Given our infrastructure, there's only so much we can do.
79.	T! ue, 10/16/07 7:37 PM	Not so much in my area, but in other areas a course should never be cancelled before the semester begins due to low enrollment unless it is just way underenrolled like 2 people or something. There have been a number of classes that could have met enrollment if given a chance to fly with some recruitment. 20 should not be a magic number for every department. Some departments are smaller and 17 or 18 is okay. However, under enrolled departments that are not graduating students or attracting students need to be cut in favor of growing areas of skills/study. Why does CCC have or need so many individual departments for such a small campus?
80.	Tue, 10/16/07 8:34 PM	None. I think we handle this just fine.
81.	Tue, 10/16/07 11:35 PM	Proportional enrollment requirements. Less sections, fewer students neede to carry on.
82.	Wed, 10/17/07 12:00 AM	We do fine but why donesn't management just tell us what FTE they want and allow us to fill it. That way our big classes could offset our smaller ones - to evealuate every class makes it hard to start new programs and or take risks.
83.	Wed, 10/17/07 2:00 AM	I think that the division should have the decision on the way classes are scheduled and added because we as faculty know the trends of the times. If cuts have to be made there should be a consensus between faculty and management to a point that faculty can suggest to management what classes should be cut.
84.	Wed, 10/17/07 3:14 AM	Look at trends.. follow the numbers! if classes are closing early, that must mean we need to open additional sections.. a no brainer, but we do not do! this at LMC.
85.	Wed, 10/17/07 4:54 AM	A class should not be cut based on enrollment for that class only and not for the enrollment in that particular term only. An averaging scheme (over over many classess/departments and over many terms) should be used.
86.	Wed, 10/17/07 4:56 PM	Don't let the full time faculty have first chance at evening, Saturday, on-line classes.
87.	Wed, 10/17/07 7:00 PM	In terms of adding classes, I would hope that if there is student demand for more of a particular class we could add that class right away; otherwise we miss the growth opportunity. Also, I think we should stick with a class size minimum of 20 and not make a policy that cuts across all disciplines. The English limit of 30 students for comp classes is in the contract because it acknowledges the work load of these courses, so when discussing any enrollment issues we need to be careful to consider individual department needs. We need to be careful not to compare apples with oranges. I understand there is a need to consider productivity, but the way that is determined unfairly hurts the English Department productivity numbers (since our comp load necessarily means we are serving fewer students). In short, we need to be flexible to all the disciplines' needs.
88.	Thu, 10/18/07 4:38 PM	This is a question that should be handled at the individual college level. Block scheduling across the curriculum should be put in place to allow students to plan their commuter experience at e! ach college. Schedules, once established, should be maintained and repeated over semesters. Low enrollment classes should be averaged with high enrollment classes by Division in order to keep courses in the schedule so students and counselors can plan a two-year up& out program for an AA/AS and transfer with an AA/AS.
89.	Thu, 10/18/07 6:57 PM	Classes should not be cancelled until the first or second class meeting. Often students add classes late
90.	Fri, 10/19/07 1:16 AM	In my area, I believe that enrollment is managed well. However, I suspect that the dean in my area is better at this than are deans in other areas.
91.	Fri, 10/19/07 7:39 PM	The process of scheduling classes is working well and in constant review at SRC.
92.	Sat, 10/2 0/07 12:11 AM	sorry--I'm not in the loop--but I can tell you this: I think the new SRC campus has "impacted" enrollments at Las Positas College--so that one of my classes has already been canceled--I was guessing this might happen... (a 3-hour Friday slot)
93.	Mon, 10/22/07 6:00 PM	Classes in tough sequences that tend to have enrollments decrease over the course are a commitment to the students and to offering intact programs. The departments should be able to "borrow" credit from high enrolled courses to support low enrolled courses that are essential to the program.
94.	Tue, 10/23/07 12:26 AM	New classes with low enrollment (at least 10) should be allowed to continue and given a chance to grow.
95.	Wed, 10/24/07 4:55 PM	Management would discuss/decide with faculty on the policy.
96.	Wed, 10/24/07 5:33 PM	if I was in another division, i'd say at the division level, but ! it should be at the campus level at this point in time.
97.	Wed, 10/24/07 6:17 PM	allow new courses which have been successful at other college's to be implemented
98.	Thu, 10/25/07 12:11 AM	When small classes ARE small for the safety and benefit of students, they should be allowed to run, and not cancelled because they have not met an arbitrary "cap" number.